|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jan 26, 2021 23:28:50 GMT -5
Will use this thread to track players who get sent down, and to help them get recalled by their owners w/in the 5 day window.
Yanks = Deivi Garcia, P - NYY (GmL-3) Yanks = Forrest Whitley, P - HOU (GmL-3)
^^ The above players are ok to be on minor league rosters for now. Their owners will have 5 days to bring them up whenever their club promotes them in real life, as they've already exhausted their minor league eligibility.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Mar 22, 2021 0:12:54 GMT -5
adding:
True = Jo Adell, OF - LAA (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Mar 27, 2021 14:40:22 GMT -5
adding:
Yanks = Nico Hoerner, SS - CHC (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 8, 2021 22:37:55 GMT -5
adding:
Bozos = Kyle Wright, P - ATL (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Coffee's 4 Closers Only on Apr 10, 2021 18:54:48 GMT -5
Coffee - Daulton Varsho, C - ARI
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 12, 2021 20:08:27 GMT -5
adding:
Orion = Carter Kieboom, SS - WAS (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 22, 2021 14:53:00 GMT -5
Coffee - Daulton Varsho, C - ARI removed
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 23, 2021 0:28:25 GMT -5
adding: Yanks = Nico Hoerner, SS - CHC (GmL-3) adding: Yanks = Forrest Whitley, P - HOU (GmL-3) also, Hoerner was brought up today. i have 5 days to do the same, which i will.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 25, 2021 16:56:22 GMT -5
adding: Yanks = Nico Hoerner, SS - CHC (GmL-3) removed. back on yahoo/mlb roster.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Apr 29, 2021 0:51:19 GMT -5
adding:
Yanks = Deivi Garcia, P - NYY (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on May 15, 2021 2:29:23 GMT -5
adding:
True = Taylor Trammell, OF - SEA (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on May 22, 2021 15:23:31 GMT -5
swapping:
Triston McKenzie, P - CLE (GmL-3) for Forrest Whitley, P - HOU (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on May 28, 2021 1:02:54 GMT -5
swapping:
Forrest Whitley, P - HOU (GmL-3) for Deivi Garcia, P - NYY (GmL-3)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on May 30, 2021 2:19:32 GMT -5
adding: Yanks = Deivi Garcia, P - NYY (GmL-3) and again
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 3, 2021 0:19:09 GMT -5
adding:
Bozos = A.J. Puk, P - OAK (GmL-3)
|
|
j0nk
Full Owner
Posts: 233
|
Post by j0nk on Jun 3, 2021 20:51:24 GMT -5
adding: Bozos = A.J. Puk, P - OAK (GmL-3) Could you please explain/clarify why Puk is included here? I understand why he'd take his GmL-3 status with him, since I've had him up for more than 15 days. But he was prematurely promoted; his MLB rookie status is still intact. So I'm not sure why I'd be obligated to recall Puk when/if the A's do. Thank you.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 4, 2021 1:59:00 GMT -5
adding: Bozos = A.J. Puk, P - OAK (GmL-3) Could you please explain/clarify why Puk is included here? I understand why he'd take his GmL-3 status with him, since I've had him up for more than 15 days. But he was prematurely promoted; his MLB rookie status is still intact. So I'm not sure why I'd be obligated to recall Puk when/if the A's do. Thank you. Because you kept him up for over 15 days, as I did with Whitely. Once that's been done, he's a GmL for the rest of the season and subject to the same rules as any other GmL. It's spelled out in the constitution. I'm not making it up as I go just to screw with you.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 4, 2021 2:02:21 GMT -5
adding: True = Taylor Trammell, OF - SEA (GmL-3) removed
|
|
j0nk
Full Owner
Posts: 233
|
Post by j0nk on Jun 4, 2021 13:45:01 GMT -5
Because you kept him up for over 15 days, as I did with Whitely. Once that's been done, he's a GmL for the rest of the season and subject to the same rules as any other GmL. It's spelled out in the constitution. I'm not making it up as I go just to screw with you. Nowhere did I say I thought rules were being made up to screw with me, and I did not intend to insinuate anything like that. I thought perhaps it was just a simple mistake, nothing nefarious. It's my first full season, about 120 games into my solo career, so I'm still getting acclimated yet and will have questions sometimes. I did look through the Constitution and amendments as best as I could before inquiring. According to the passage below, since Puk has not previously exceeded playing- or service-time thresholds, I thought he was not subject to a five-day window. - any player dropped down to the mL roster must also be pulled up w/in 5 days of the major league team doing so in real life…only if he was drafted in the major league phase of the draft, or if he had previously exceeded the AB, IP, or service time threshold.
There's also passages about prematurely promoted players staying down for 60 days and how it may "behoove an owner to simply leave the asset demoted" if he's recalled to MLB. But I'm not sure how this would be possible if there's a required five-day window. (Did Nick write "behoove"? Sounds like something he'd say.)
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 5, 2021 0:00:20 GMT -5
That was lighthearted sarcasm, but I get how it can come across.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 5, 2021 0:15:39 GMT -5
there are many parts of the rules that reference GmLs. all that's true above. but again, once you leave a prospect up for greater than 15 days that changes everything. whatever you do with Puk from here on out, or me with Whitely, he is a GmL-3 for the remainder of this season.
if he's in the minors long enough, or injured long enough (like Whitely, btw), he can retain the GmL-3 status into the following season. but by going over the 15 day "test" window, he's subject to the same rules as someone like Trammell was recently. the Yanks keep going up and down with Deivi, as the Indians do with Triston...so if one of these times they don't send them back down w/in 5 days in real life, I'll be subject to the same thing with them. they're all prospect eligible, or were going into the season...but in each case, they were prematurely promoted for various reasons and stayed up over the 15 day window...or were promoted at the end of a season, as teams lock.
not sure if i'm explaining this properly by giving similar examples, but the 15 day thing makes these players a GmL...that can no longer change...so they're subject to the 5 day windows when moves happen in real life, just like any other GmL. don't know how to explain it other than that.
|
|
j0nk
Full Owner
Posts: 233
|
Post by j0nk on Jun 6, 2021 21:10:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply. I was out of town at a wedding this weekend and just saw it today.
To clarify, looking at my two players on the list...
I understand why Kyle Wright, who exceeded rookie limits during the 2020 season, would have a 5-day recall requirement. And — again — I do understand why AJ Puk would have his GmL-3 travel with him to my minors roster: because he was on my majors for more than 15 days. That's not what I asked about and I'm not suggesting his GmL-3 be erased or reversed.
Rather, it's unclear why Puk, whose rookie status is still intact through 2021, would be subject to the 5-day recall requirement. I don't see this spelled out in the Constitution, so I asked about it. "as they've already exhausted their minor league eligibility," but he has not.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 7, 2021 0:28:37 GMT -5
if amendment #1 isn't clear enough, i'll think of editing it another time...but that's the rule, and how it's always been treated in the league. once a prematurely promoted player has been left up for over 15 days, he is then a GmL from that point forward...regardless of anything else...and subject to the same rules as any other demoted GmL. any demoted GmL must be called up w/in 5 days of it happening in real life, because he is no longer a prospect. by going over the 15 day trial, he is treated differently than a prospect.
like i said, if it's not clearly stated somewhere, that's still the rule. it's final with Puk, because you went over 15 days, as it is with all the other players currently in the same situation (of which I currently have 3).
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 13, 2021 2:27:57 GMT -5
removed Forrest Whitley again. back on my IL.
|
|
|
Post by Yanks27Sox9 on Jun 23, 2021 1:59:06 GMT -5
adding: Bozos = Kyle Wright, P - ATL (GmL-3) removed
|
|